Parliament Hansard Report – Obituaries – 001199

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OBITUARIES

Thomas de Vere (Pat) Hunt

David Graham McGee CNZM, KC

SPEAKER: Members, I regret to inform the House of the death, on 24 July 2023, of Thomas de Vere (Pat) Hunt, who represented the electorate of Pakuranga from 1978 to 1984. During his membership of the House, he was a member of a number of select committees, including the Foreign Affairs Committee, the Labour and Education Committee, and the Public Expenditure Committee.

I also regret to inform the House of the death, on 27 August 2023, of David Graham McGee CNZM, KC, who was Clerk of the House of Representatives from 1985 to 2007. He was the author of the first three editions of Parliamentary Practice in New Zealand and was held in high esteem throughout the Commonwealth as an expert on parliamentary procedure.

I desire, on behalf of the House, to express our sense of the loss we have sustained and our sympathy with the relatives of the late former member and Clerk. I now ask members to stand with me and observe a period of silence as a mark of respect to their memories.

Members stood as a mark of respect.

Greens and community pressure secures win for Hauraki Gulf Tīkapa Moana

Source: Green Party

The Green Party is pleased that ongoing public pressure from environmental NGOs, recreational fishers, the Greens and citizens has persuaded the Government to consider a serious rollback of damaging bottom trawling over substantial areas of the Hauraki Gulf/Tīkapa Moana/Te Moanui-ā-Toi.

“The Hauraki Gulf/Tīkapa Moana/Te Moanaui ā Toi is a taonga in trouble. It has been in crisis for a very long time. The Green Party has been consistent in calling for action to protect marine life and the ecosystem for years. What the Government has announced today is a good start to reducing the impacts of commercial fishing,” says Green Party oceans and fisheries spokesperson Eugenie Sage.

“The Hauraki Gulf Marine Park should be a place where marine life can flourish, safe from high impact, industrial fishing methods such as bottom trawling and Danish seining. Bottom trawling has no place in the Hauraki Gulf and should be phased out entirely.

“The options proposed today are a great start. But, we remain concerned that the detailed proposals and the consultation document have not been released, and that the Government is not taking immediate action.

“In the 2021 Revitalising the Gulf report, the Government conceded that transitioning from bottom contact methods could have economic consequences. We hope that loss of profits for fishing companies is not the reason the Government has stopped short of a complete ban.

“Tackling climate change and protecting our oceans goes hand in hand. Warmer and prolonged marine heatwaves contribute to mortality events for marine life. Healthy oceans to help regulate the climate.

“Final decisions on this won’t be until after the election. It’s essential that we lock these changes in now because a National/ACT Government could stop this progress in its tracks, favouring business interests over the health of our oceans.

“Tīkapa Moana/Te Moanaui ā Toi/the Hauraki Gulf supports the wellbeing of more than 1.5 million people across Tāmaki Makaurau. Only with more Green MPs will we be able to take the necessary action to protect the health of our oceans, all the creatures that live in and on them, and people and communities who depend on healthy oceans for our survival and wellbeing,” says Eugenie Sage.

Labour needs to reconsider wealth tax

Source: Green Party

The announcement today that the Government has decided to cut funding to public services shows exactly why they need to tax wealth and big corporations.

“The Labour Government is constraining itself unnecessarily by refusing to change the tax system to raise revenue from the wealthiest few which can be used to support everyone in Aotearoa. The time is now for a wealth tax,” says Green Party finance spokesperson Julie Anne Genter.

“Aotearoa’s tax system that has been designed to favour the wealthiest few. The government’s own research shows that just 311 families own more wealth than the bottom two and half million New Zealanders.

“And yet they pay less than half the effective tax of the average New Zealander.

“Today’s decision will only constrain future Governments from being able to help every single person in Aotearoa.

“It doesn’t have to be like this. The money we need to make life better for everyone in NZ is already there. All that’s missing is the political courage to make it happen.

“The Green Party’s plan ensures the wealthiest few, and big corporations like the banks, pay their fair share through a wealth tax and corporate tax of 33%.

“This would guarantee everyone an income that covers life’s essentials; a warm, dry and affordable place to live that is powered by cheap, clean energy; and access to free dental care in communities where people and nature thrive.

“Labour can play the rule-in, rule-out game all they want. But politicians need to remember that it’s up to the people to decide what they want on the table after the election. When 63% of people polled say they support a wealth tax to pay for free dental care – together with lifting all whānau out of poverty – it’s time for politicians to listen up.

“With more Green MPs and Green Ministers sitting around the cabinet table, we can redesign the tax system to benefit everyone,” says Julie Anne Genter.

New $750m fund part of Climate-Safe Communities plan to protect towns and cities from flooding

Source: Green Party

The Green Party has today announced a Climate-Safe Communities plan to both cut emissions and protect our communities from the impact of climate change. 

“Our plan will slash emissions, bring nature back to our towns and cities, and protect our homes and communities from future extreme weather,” says Green Party co-leader James Shaw. 

“The three yearly election merry-go-round of empty promises about who will build the most roads is tiresome and, frankly, irresponsible, especially in the wake of the two climate disasters Aotearoa has already experienced this year. 

“Climate change is a dominant fact of everyday life for people right across Aotearoa. Our challenge now is to stop the climate crisis from getting out of control and to prepare for what cannot be avoided.

“Instead of having governments that are reacting to disaster, our Climate-Safe Communities plan will shift towards creating stronger communities. Resilient, affordable, inclusive communities that can meet everyone’s needs despite the challenges of the disrupted climate.

“It is a necessarily wide ranging plan that includes a new $750 million Urban Nature Fund to empower communities to create jobs restoring and protecting nature in towns and cities.

“We will also set rules to make sure developers and councils are working together to construct more resilient homes and buildings designed to handle extreme weather, and ensure greater use of green spaces that not only provide a space to relax, but filter and drain flood waters.  

“The Green Party has already committed to building 35,000 new warm, affordable homes over the next five years in the places people want to live. 

“Our Climate-Safe Communities plan sets out how we will achieve this without car-dependent sprawl that concretes over natural areas, or builds in flood-prone areas – and instead creates new routes for buses, walking and cycling, and street-level light rail in our three biggest cities by 2030.

“Every one of the changes set out in our Climate-Safe Communities plan are the ones that will make life better for people and nature anyway,” says James Shaw. 

Green Party co-leader Marama Davidson added:

“Imagine sending your kids off to school on their bike, knowing that on the way they’ll meet up with their friends, who are also on their bikes – and together they’ll get to school along a protected path, instead of driving through traffic. 

“Imagine jumping on quick light rail to get to work instead of crawling along gridlocked roads. Or living in communities with streets lined with trees, new parks, clean rivers and birds soaring overhead instead of concrete and tarmac. 

“Over the last two months, the Green Party set out a plan that will guarantee everyone has enough to cover life’s essentials, a warm, dry and affordable place to live that is powered by cheap, clean energy, and access to free dental care. 

“And today, as well as making sure everyone has what they need to meet life’s essentials, we are setting out how we will rethink the communities where we live and work so they provide spaces for people and nature to thrive.  

“This is our plan to bring our towns and cities into balance with a healthy climate and thriving nature. 

“It is a plan to make sure our towns and cities can meet the needs of everyone within the limits of the planet. To make it happen, we need more Green MPs and Ministers around the decision making table,” says Marama Davidson. 

Click here to read the full Climate-Safe Communities Plan.

James Shaw – Climate Safe Communities Speech

Source: Green Party

A family whose home was flooded to the ceiling of the ground floor. The kitchen, dining and living rooms filled as completely as a fish-tank.

The water, so unrelenting the parents were forced to break open an upstairs window with a steel bar.

So that Mum could pass their children to Dad, who had swum out to retrieve the family kayak. 

A pregnant mother, and her five kids. 

Lucky enough to escape the torrents flooding into their home at such terrifying speed that it created a whirlpool on their driveway. 

A river that breached and roared through the home of an elderly couple. 

A couple who had poured their hearts and souls into that home over decades. 

Their ‘forever home’. 

These stories are not from a science fiction novel. 

They are from right here in Auckland, just seven months ago. 

Each providing a terrifying glimpse of the personal impact of the climate emergency. 

And I would like to acknowledge that many of you here will have your own stories to tell. 

Just as those in Te Tai Tokerau, Coromandel, Tairāwhiti, Hawke’s Bay, Nelson, the West Coast, and others, will have their own stories.

Of the loss they suffered, of a community coming together, and of months and months of gruelling recovery. 

***

We think of climate change as a slow-moving, scientific and technical issue that, on a day-to-day basis, people don’t experience and don’t really see. 

Until, of course, they do.

I had been the Minister of Climate Change for five and half years when the flooding of 27 January hit this city.  

In those five and a half years, there have been plenty of setbacks, frustrations, and roadblocks. 

But every single day, I fought and the Greens fought, as hard as we could to cut pollution at the scale and speed needed to slow global warming.

I like to think that we have done a pretty good job with the governments we have been given. 

Only six months before the flooding, I ushered in the country’s first ever, comprehensive, all-of-government Emissions Reduction Plan.

A blueprint for a zero-carbon Aotearoa.

Aotearoa has been experiencing more frequent and more severe droughts, floods and storms for a while now.

But it wasn’t really until the Anniversary Weekend floods, followed by Cyclone Gabrielle a fortnight later, that I truly saw – for myself – what we have been fighting for.

I couldn’t grasp from the pictures I’d seen in the newspapers or on the six o-clock news, the sheer scale of the climate crisis until I’d seen it for myself, in person. 

Nothing prepared me for the sight of children’s toys and clothing heaped in brown puddles, or cherished items stacked in ruins.  

Broken walls, sagging houses, wrecked cars buried in silt.

Precious family photos, sodden, barely recognisable. 

Old school books, letters, the kids’ drawings, in pieces. 

I met the people who had spent weeks in a gruelling blur of endless clean up. 

And what I saw at work, was community. 

Neighbours helping neighbours. 

Volunteers who sprung into action to help clean up streets, rip out carpets, and sort through belongings. 

A community knitted together by caring for one another. 

Even for those who hardly knew each other.

Global temperatures are today 1.1 degrees warmer than they were 150 years ago. 

Warmer air holds more water vapour.

More water vapour creates more rain. Lots more rain. 

One degree of warming translates to about a 20 per cent increase in rainfall per hour during an extreme weather event. 

So while we have not been able to stop the climate crisis, fractions of a degree do matter. 

There have been a slew of right-wing opportunists lined up to use the Auckland and Hawke’s Bay disasters to argue that the government should give up on cutting pollution and put all its efforts into adaptation. 

This is as unscientific as it is dangerous. 

It is also utterly out of touch with the needs of the people they purport to represent. 

It is a disingenuous, harmful and bad faith argument that is designed to pull our attention away from the work we need to be doing.

It’s like saying we’re going to stop repairing the hole in the roof and focus on just bailing the water out of the house with a bucket. The more it rains, the more water you’ll have to bail. 

Yes, of course we have to adapt to the effects of climate change that we are already experiencing. 

But no adaptation measure we take will survive a two or three degree warmer world. 

To be resilient, we need both immediate and urgent action to limit warming, and action to adapt to what we know cannot be avoided.

Every fraction of a degree matters.

Every tonne of climate pollution that is stopped matters.

A 1.6 degree world is less bad than a 1.7 degree world. 

We simply must not find out what 2 degrees of warming looks like.

We are in a climate emergency.

It is time for everyone to act like it.

***

The people I met here in February and in Hawke’s Bay a few weeks later – and thousands of others – will have spent the last seven months building back what they lost to a climate crisis that was not of their making. 

But one that was perpetrated by a fossil fuel industry and a small number of like-minded politicians who hijacked our political and economic system for decades. 

As much as these vested interests like to over-complicate it, these so-called systems are really just the sum of their parts. 

And those parts are people. 

What the climate crisis means for our future, what we can do about it, and what kind of a world we can create, is all about people. 

And people can change the systems we live in – especially in an election year. 

A crisis will always draw into sharp focus what we value most of all. 

The devastation wrought by the Auckland floods and Cyclone Gabrielle showed that what we value above all else is each other. 

***

We are 48 days out from one of the most significant elections we have ever had in Aotearoa.

At the last possible moment when there is still time to steer away from climate disaster.

The world woke up to the scientists’ warnings about global warming a little over three decades ago.

Had this warning been heeded at any point in the last thirty years, the world would be a very different place. 

We’d be better off in numerous ways. 

But, as we saw earlier this year, that is not what happened.

And here’s the worst of it: 

In the three decades since the first global gathering to stave off the climate crisis, roughly as much pollution has been emitted into the atmosphere, as from the start of the Industrial Revolution up until that point. 

Let me put it another way. Half the pollution that has caused climate change has been emitted since the world’s governments first came together to stop climate change. 

They knew what was unfolding. 

They had a chance to stop it. 

They didn’t. 

We have now run out of elections to waste. 

***

Fifteen years ago, in the 2008 election, the Green Party’s election billboard featured a small child with the words, “Vote for Me.” 

In the 15 years since that campaign, that child has grown into an adult. 

For every year of her life, the Green Party has fought harder than any other political party to create the world she deserves. 

But for nine of those 15 years, our progress was stymied by a National-led Government who chose neglect over hope. 

Look back on that nine year period and you’ll see the familiar pattern of neglect that accompanies every National-led Government.

Families were left struggling to make ends meet.

Forced to make impossible choices between heating their home and putting food on the table.

Polluted rivers and the cataclysmic loss of native wilderness and wildlife.

And a complete lack of any meaningful action to tackle the climate crisis.

They squandered a decade of opportunity to create a better future. 

They gave us no reason to hope. 

They eroded any promise of change. 

They put at risk our shared future. 

We can not let them do it again. 

***

Over the last six years, with the Greens in government, we’ve taken more action on climate change than all previous governments before us. 

Pollution is tracking downwards for the first time ever. 

But the job is far from done.

The decisions that will be made in the next term of Parliament will have a profound impact on climate change policy and action for the next twenty years.

And, by extension, the world that our children and grandchildren will inherit from us.

The worst possible scenario I can imagine for the future of climate action in this country, would be a National-ACT coalition.

They would unwind much of what we’ve won. 

The momentum we’ve started to build up would fail.

And if National’s coalition partner, the ACT Party gets their way, everything we have achieved in the last six years… from putting climate targets into law, to ending the use of coal to heat our schools… will be dismantled…and we’ll be back where we started, thirty years ago.

If we are to fundamentally shift the direction and momentum of the country…

If we are to bed in the gains that we have made over our first two terms…

…it is critical that the Green Party has a much greater influence over the work programme of the next Government.

We know what we need to do. 

We have the solutions. 

The only obstacles we face are political.

It is a well-worn political cliché to describe an election as “the most important of our lifetimes.” 

Every election matters. 

But we are out of time. This election will matter forever.

***

Now, this may come as a surprise to you, but I turned 50 this year. 

It is quite different for me to say, as a 50 year old, that I’m worried about the future, than it is to hear a young person say “I’m worried about my future.” 

That they are scared to have kids of their own.

The younger you are, the higher the stakes. 

The net-zero climate targets we put into law are not designed for today’s 50 year olds. 

They are for today’s five year olds. 

And that is what today’s announcement is about too. 

It’s about our plan to use the next three years turning the climate crisis into a future of possibility. 

***

The morning that we passed the Zero Carbon Act into law, I became an uncle to our family’s newest nephew. 

Six years in government can go by in the blink of an eye.

But for him, and for all those born since we got into Government, it has been their entire lifetime. 

And it’s their lifetimes that we need to be thinking of in every single political decision we make.

If we make the right decisions now, kids born today will be able to ride their bikes or scooters to school without worrying about noisy, fast-moving traffic. 

They will be able to see eels swimming in their natural habitat by the time they are old enough to say “tuna.”

If we leave our mature trees where they are, our grandkids will be able to climb the same branches our kids are climbing now. 

If we actually build light rail – instead of staying on the ridiculous consultancy merry-go-round forever – when those kids are teenagers, they will be able to get around their city independently without needing a car.

And, if at the same time, we build warm, dry, affordable, and accessible homes, close to the new rail lines, they will have a warm dry place to live and a quick commute when they’re ready to move out of home.  

We can absolutely make all of this happen. 

All we need is the political will. 

***

For decades, politicians have made excuses for why we cannot do things at the pace and scale we need to solve the connected crises of climate change, biodiversity loss and intergenerational poverty. 

They have repeatedly denied their own ability to fix major problems.

They tell us their hands are tied. 

They say only little steps are possible.

But the climate crisis will not wait for decades of incremental progress.

It is happening right now.

What gives me hope is that the very changes we need to fix this challenge are the ones that will make life better for people, and for nature, anyway. 

Imagine sending your kids off to school on their bikes, along with their friends, and together they’ll get to school along a protected path, instead of driving through traffic. 

Imagine jumping on fast light rail to get to work instead of crawling along gridlocked roads. 

Imagine streets lined with trees, new parks, clean rivers and birds soaring overhead instead of concrete and tarmac. 

We can have all this and more.

It is all possible with the right political decisions. 

***

Over the last two months, the Green Party has set out a plan that will guarantee everyone has enough to cover life’s essentials.

That will ensure that everyone has a warm, dry, affordable and accessible home, powered by cheap, clean solar energy.

That will ensure that everyone has at least the most fundamental dental care. 

But, alongside making sure everyone has what they need to meet life’s essentials, we must also rethink the communities where we live and work.

So that those communities provide for people and nature to thrive.  

The Climate-Safe Communities plan we are announcing today will build our cities around the needs of people, while also creating space for nature, like new green infrastructure that can soak up water and help prevent flooding.

Creating new routes for buses and light rail, walking and cycling, will get people where they need to go more quickly.

And with less pollution than building more roads.

Tree lined streets will shade us as we walk the kids to school. 

They will also provide an effective, efficient, and immediate form of urban climate action.

Harakeke-lined paths and park basins will absorb water when the next storm hits.

Keeping our homes safe from floods. 

There is no one big silver bullet to deliver this.

But many, many small and necessary changes that together add up to a better future.

Each part of the plan we are announcing today will make greater shifts possible in the future. 

But only if we embrace the possibilities right now. 

The Government has just set up a new framework for how we plan and build our communities, replacing the RMA.

It gives us the tools we need to prioritise the resilient, low emissions infrastructure that we need.

Our Climate-Safe Communities plan is a commitment to unlock the potential of the new National Planning Framework.

We will ensure that the new Regional Spatial Strategies and Natural and Built Environment Plans give councils the tools they need to consider stormwater flows in their planning.

Because no one should have to rely on Dad swimming out to find a kayak to get their kids to safety in a flood.

We will use development bonuses for new buildings that include rainwater storage or green roofs.

That means that we’ll allow an extra few storeys in new developments to make it economically worthwhile, to make sure our towns and cities have surfaces that soak up heavy rain, instead of vast expanses of concrete that make flooding worse. 

Green roofs. Rainwater tanks. Parks, streambanks, and wetlands that deliberately flood, and then drain away, protecting the homes and businesses around them.

And we are backing up this plan with a commitment to funding for communities and councils.

Our $750 million Urban Nature Fund will empower communities to create jobs restoring and protecting nature in our cities and towns.

It will support communities to work with nature to not only prevent climate breakdown but to create better parks, more trees, and cleaner urban streams.

And to tackle our fastest growing source of climate pollution in Aotearoa, we will take serious action to give you an alternative to sitting in traffic.

We will prioritise light rail in our major cities and better buses in our other communities.

Instead of building new motorways that will instantly become clogged with gridlock and pollution.

We will build light rail in Auckland from the city centre to Mount Roskill.

Then we’ll build it out to the airport – at street level – and we will get it done faster than the mind-bogglingly expensive tunnels that are currently proposed.

And that will free up funding to build light rail in Wellington and Christchurch too.

When it comes to how we plan, build, and adapt our towns and cities for climate change, cutting pollution and increasing resilience are two sides of the same coin.

We can and must do both. 

Because none of us can stand by, when we see a way to prevent future tragedies like the floods in Auckland and around the North Island earlier this year.

We owe it to each other, and especially to those who will inherit our towns and cities, to make different choices.

We owe it to those who can’t yet vote to put their best interests at the heart of political decision making. 

We owe it to every child in Aotearoa and every child throughout the world to keep up the momentum of the past six years. 

We owe them a world with a hopeful future.

We cannot fail them. 

We have everything we need right now to make it happen.

So, let’s get out there and do it.

The time is now.

Nō reira, tena koutou, tena koutou, tena koutou katoa.

Greens cheers community win to reduce alcohol harm

Source: Green Party

The Green Party is today celebrating the passage of the Sale and Supply of Alcohol (Community Participation) Bill.

“Let’s be under no illusion. This Bill was introduced to the House and has passed today as a direct result of years of community campaigning, including most recently with the Greens nearly two year campaign for my Alcohol Harm Minimisation Bill,” said Green Party drug harm reduction spokesperson Chlöe Swarbrick.

“We’re stoked that the Government copied our homework by removing the special appeals process abused by large corporations to steamroll over community designed Local Alcohol Policies.

“To be crystal clear, this does not remove the right to judicial appeals, as the opposition have been disingenuously peddling. It simply revokes a special, unique right for alcohol sellers to tie up Local Alcohol Policies progressing – there’s no similar provision for sellers of tobacco, vapes, pokies or any other form of social harm.

“It must be noted, however, that both the Government and the opposition continue to kick the issue of alcohol glamorisation through advertising and sponsorship to touch, despite overwhelming research commissioned and action recommended to Governments of both stripes.

“Only the Greens continue to fight for logically consistent, evidence-based harm reduction approaches to all substances, and today, we’re celebrating another win with and for our communities,” says Chlöe Swarbrick.

Parliament Hansard Report – Tuesday, 22 August 2023 (continued on Thursday, 24 August 2023) – Volume 771 – 001198

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TUESDAY, 22 AUGUST 2023

(continued on Thursday, 24 August 2023)

LOCAL GOVERNMENT ELECTORAL LEGISLATION BILL

In Committee

Debate resumed.

Parts 1 to 3, Schedules 1 to 3, and clauses 1 and 2 (continued)

CHAIRPERSON (Hon Jenny Salesa): Good morning. Ata mārie, members. The committee resumes its consideration of the Local Government Electoral Legislation Bill. The question is that Parts 1 to 3, Schedules 1 to 3, and clauses 1 and 2 stand part. I see members are so keen to take a call, especially after the 12 a.m. finish last night!

The question is that Golriz Ghahraman’s amendments to the Minister’s amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 358, set out on Supplementary Order Paper 397, be agreed to.

A party vote was called for on the question, That the amendments to the amendment be agreed to.

Ayes 10

Green Party of Aotearoa New Zealand 9; Kerekere.

Noes 106

New Zealand Labour 62; New Zealand National 34; ACT New Zealand 10.

Amendments to the amendment not agreed to.

CHAIRPERSON (Hon Jenny Salesa): The question is that the Minister’s amendments set out on Supplementary Order Papers 367 and 358 be agreed to.

A party vote was called for on the question, That the amendments be agreed to.

Ayes 72

New Zealand Labour 62; Green Party of Aotearoa New Zealand 9; Kerekere.

Noes 44

New Zealand National 34; ACT New Zealand 10.

Amendments agreed to.

CHAIRPERSON (Hon Jenny Salesa): Golriz Ghahraman’s amendment to insert new Part 1A set out on Supplementary Order Paper 263 is ruled out of order as being outside the scope of this bill.

A party vote was called for on the question, That Parts 1 to 3, Schedules 1 to 3, and clauses 1 and 2 as amended be agreed to.

Ayes 75

New Zealand Labour 62; Green Party of Aotearoa New Zealand 9; Te Paati Māori 2; Kerekere; Whaitiri.

Noes 44

New Zealand National 34; ACT New Zealand 10.

Parts 1 to 3, Schedules 1 to 3, and clauses 1 and 2 as amended agreed to.

Bill to be reported with amendment.

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TUESDAY, 22 AUGUST 2023

(continued on Thursday, 24 August 2023)

LOCAL GOVERNMENT ELECTORAL LEGISLATION BILL

In Committee

Debate resumed.

Parts 1 to 3, Schedules 1 to 3, and clauses 1 and 2 (continued)

CHAIRPERSON (Hon Jenny Salesa): Good morning. Ata mārie, members. The committee resumes its consideration of the Local Government Electoral Legislation Bill. The question is that Parts 1 to 3, Schedules 1 to 3, and clauses 1 and 2 stand part. I see members are so keen to take a call, especially after the 12 a.m. finish last night!

The question is that Golriz Ghahraman’s amendments to the Minister’s amendment set out on Supplementary Order Paper 358, set out on Supplementary Order Paper 397, be agreed to.

A party vote was called for on the question, That the amendments to the amendment be agreed to.

Ayes 10

Green Party of Aotearoa New Zealand 9; Kerekere.

Noes 106

New Zealand Labour 62; New Zealand National 34; ACT New Zealand 10.

Amendments to the amendment not agreed to.

CHAIRPERSON (Hon Jenny Salesa): The question is that the Minister’s amendments set out on Supplementary Order Papers 367 and 358 be agreed to.

A party vote was called for on the question, That the amendments be agreed to.

Ayes 72

New Zealand Labour 62; Green Party of Aotearoa New Zealand 9; Kerekere.

Noes 44

New Zealand National 34; ACT New Zealand 10.

Amendments agreed to.

CHAIRPERSON (Hon Jenny Salesa): Golriz Ghahraman’s amendment to insert new Part 1A set out on Supplementary Order Paper 263 is ruled out of order as being outside the scope of this bill.

A party vote was called for on the question, That Parts 1 to 3, Schedules 1 to 3, and clauses 1 and 2 as amended be agreed to.

Ayes 75

New Zealand Labour 62; Green Party of Aotearoa New Zealand 9; Te Paati Māori 2; Kerekere; Whaitiri.

Noes 44

New Zealand National 34; ACT New Zealand 10.

Parts 1 to 3, Schedules 1 to 3, and clauses 1 and 2 as amended agreed to.

Bill to be reported with amendment.

Parliament Hansard Report – Local Government Electoral Legislation Bill — Third Reading – 001196

Source: New Zealand Parliament – Hansard

STUART SMITH (National—Kaikōura): Thank you, Madam Speaker. I think the 12 a.m. finish this morning has clearly coloured some of the debate this morning. It’s fantastic, I enjoy an early start anyway, so it’s great to be out here.

I note the Minister said this bill is technical; it’s not technical, it’s autocratic. That’s what it is—it’s actually autocratic. We believe in localism on this side of the House and consulting with councils—we do talk to our councils; I talk to mine. What they don’t want is us telling them what to do, and this is exactly what this is doing, it’s telling them what to do. It’s putting in place that every six years they have to put an agenda item on their agenda through this legislation—it’s outrageous. These people are elected to represent their constituents, they’re ratepayers, they should be able to make that call, not us here. That is outrageous, and to put it up there, I’d have to say I think even saying that they have to consult with iwi and communities—that’s round the wrong way. You should have to consult with your community and iwi, in that order, because the community is the majority—covers everyone, and that’s what they are elected to represent. They want to consult other groups? Fine. That’s fantastic. And should there be Māori wards? That’s a decision for the community.

This is the major step towards making that decision for them. I think it’s outrageous and it shows quite, I think, in the dying days of this Government—thank goodness—in the dying days of this Government, they have a priority of trying to bring this up. It really shows, and that’s why we’re getting such positive feedback in the electorate for us coming in towards Government. They are absolutely—people are sick of the ideology-driven Government and so let’s bring on October 14 and see the end, or the back, of this Government.

Parliament Hansard Report – Tuesday, 22 August 2023 (continued on Wednesday, 23 August 2023) – Volume 771 – 001195

Source: New Zealand Parliament – Hansard

SIMON COURT (ACT): Thank you, Madam Chair. Minister, I just want to come to clause 9 of this Bill, the Water Services Legislation Bill, which proposes to amend section 18 of the primary legislation, “Other things water services entities can do”. Clause 9(3) says, “A water service entity—may establish, own … or operate a subsidiary only if the subsidiary complies with the requirements specified in Schedule 5”. But more importantly, clause 9(3)(b) says what it may not do: it “may not enter into a partnership with another person or persons.”

Now, assuming that means a natural person or a person in the sense that it could be a corporate, this clause appears to extinguish the opportunity for water service entities to partner with the private sector to deliver services in the form of a public-private partnership for example, or a special purpose vehicle, for example, Minister, where a local government entity now, or in this case a water services entity of the future, which is seeking private and institutional capital—it could be from the Accident Compensation Corporation, where that capital comes from. It could be from the New Zealand Superannuation Fund, it could be from KiwiSaver, it could be from an iwi investment fund. The private capital component, plus private management experience, capability, whatever that specific expertise is, partnering with water service entities in the form of a public-private partnership, say to deliver a whole lot of new services for a new subdivision, or, potentially, to upgrade existing networks in existing urban environments to allow for much higher densities to be built. For example, where currently there are one- or two-storey homes—many parts of our major metros are zoned for six storeys or even eight storeys by right, Minister, but they can’t proceed because the water infrastructure is very expensive and whether it’s a council or a water service entity it’s not clear where the capital will come from to do that.

So Minister, could you please confirm: does clause 9, which amends section 18 of the primary legislation, extinguish the ability of water service entities to enter into public-private partnerships?

Hon KIERAN McANULTY (Minister of Local Government): No, it doesn’t, and we covered this to some degree last night when the answer to Ms Grigg’s question around council-owned council-controlled organisations (CCOs).

Nicola Grigg: Great question.

Hon KIERAN McANULTY: It was a great question actually, very topical and a good opportunity to clarify some of those concerns that are out there. What I said in response to that question was that only the CCOs in Wellington and Auckland will be included in that. The others will remain in ownership with the councils. There is nothing in this bill that would stop entities entering into joint ventures with those or with private companies as well.